Agenda item

Member Questions

These must be received no later than 12 noon on Monday 6 February 2017.

Minutes:

1.

Question from Councillor Dennis Parsons to Cabinet Member Healthy Lifestyles, Councillor Flo Clucas

 

Will the Cabinet Member arrange to have a permanent memorial placed in a prominent and public location dedicated to Brian Jones, founder of the Rolling Stones, to mark the 75th anniversary of his birth on 28th February this year.

Regards

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

In thanking Cllr Parsons for his question, I would refer him to the previous response. As he may know, the Council is currently working on a new Public Art strategy, within which it is anticipated that commemorative art will be a feature, both for women and men.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Parsons asked whether the Cabinet Member could request that the new Public Art strategy consider prominent memorials for all notable Cheltonians and could members be updated on a regular basis?

 

In response the Cabinet Member advised that she had already requested that the strategy should celebrate the achievements of Cheltonian women and she was happy to pass on Councillor Parsons request for a memorial to Brian Jones and regular updates on the strategy. She added that the Cheltenham Trust would be putting the bust of Brian Jones on display and this would be the subject of a media release.

 

2.

Question from Councillor Tim Harman to Cabinet Member Clean and Green Environment ,  Councillor Chris Coleman

 

During the Christmas and New Year Period a number of "Bring" sites were overflowing with recycled materials and were very unsightly . Will the Cabinet member  examine measures to improve the situation for future public holidays such as the provision of additional skips and or more frequent clearances

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

Traditionally during the Christmas holidays, the bring site network comes under pressure because of the large increase in users, which means that it’s imperative that all visitors use the containers appropriately.

Having reviewed what happened over Christmas, it is apparent that not all users place their recyclables in the recycling banks and unfortunately just throw them on the floor by the side, which then gives the impression that the bank is full, when in fact there is capacity available. The Council communicated this issue previously and will again as part of the next Christmas waste and recycling promotions.

Ubico’s skip vehicles work longer hours and during weekends over the Christmas holidays. In addition, the cleansing teams monitor the bring bank sites and remove any items which have been placed by the sides of the banks.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Harman suggested that the state of the bring sites during the Christmas period had been less than desirable and asked whether the Cabinet Member was certain that nothing more could be done?

 

The Cabinet Member advised that only one bring site had been brought to his attention and he had later checked that all the issues had been rectified. One of the problems was that commercial waste was being dumped at the sites illegally and he would like to see more done to combat this issue. Generally he did not accept that the bring sites were in a poor condition and he thought that the staff did a very good job over the Christmas period. During December he had spent a lot of time talking with officers about service improvements and more kerbside recycling in the future should reduce the need for residents to take their waste to bring sites.

 

3.

Question from Councillor Louis Savage to the Cabinet Member Corporate Services, Councillor Roger Whyborn

 

Can the Cabinet Member outline the total financial cost of holding Borough Council elections in May 2016?

 

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

The financial cost of these elections was within the approved budget. The total cost attributable to the council has been submitted as part of the 2016 election accounts and will be confirmed week commencing 13th February, when the relevant officer returns from annual leave, but in general terms the average cost of holding whole council elections on a four yearly cycle is circa  £30,000 per annum.

With the Mayor’s permission, the Cabinet Member advised that he had received information from officers that the average cost of holding elections was £130,000 per annum and that there would be a saving of £30,000 per annum if elections were held every four years.

 

Councillor Savage had no supplementary question but requested clarification via e-mail on the precise savings figures.

 

4.

Question from Councillor Louis Savage to the Cabinet Member Corporate Services, Councillor Roger Whyborn

 

Has the Cabinet Member or Cabinet considered the potential savings which could be achieved from moving to whole council elections on a 4 yearly basis?

 

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

A similar question was raised at the council meeting on 4th April 2016, and the response remains unchanged. The preferred frequency of elections is based on a judgement as to the best way to ensure the maximum accountability of local politicians to the voting public commensurate with efficient local government. It is my belief, and that of this administration, that by retaining the current 2 year cycle we are offering Cheltenham's electorate more opportunity to express their democratic will than would be the case with a 4 year cycle, and that a move to a 4 year cycle would be a retrograde step for local democracy.

5.

Question from Councillor Adam Lillywhite to the Cabinet Member Built Environment, Councillor Andrew McKinlay

 

Every time I have asked you how people can comment on the CTP, I have been sent to Gloucester as the Highways Authority responsible for the scheme, Yet when a group recently wrote to the head of GCC they seemed to see it somewhat differently:

 

 "I appreciate you and others are unhappy with the Cheltenham Transport Plan proposals. That is something you must pursue with Cheltenham Borough Council as scheme promoter. Agreeing it was a tough decision, where we did our best to reconcile a number of strongly held views. That decision was taken properly and legally. The council is now moving forward with implementing the phased approach that was agreed."

 

There is therefore little surprise that there have been no objections registered against phase 1, will you please provide a point of contact in Cheltenham where these objections are to be registered and outline how they are to be collated and considered,

 

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

The key word in this question is objection.

However, the time for raising objections has been and gone, as clearly identified in the response from GCC. A decision has been taken to proceed in a transparent and legal way and now the focus is upon effective implementation.

The decision was taken to progress in a phased manner and this is what is being undertaken. GCC are monitoring for adverse or unexpected outcomes, but I understand that from phase 1 they have received positive feedback from both cyclists and bus operators, and critically the vehicle traffic monitoring showed no unexpected outcomes.

The reality is that GCC are seeking evidence over the effectiveness of the scheme and I am sure that if comments were made in that vein rather than objections to the wider scheme, then GCC would welcome them.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Lillywhite commented that that the Cabinet Member had not answered the question, “where are objections to be registered?” and asked how could evidence of the effectiveness of this scheme be fed back,  when the Cabinet Member repeatedly refused to give a point of contact for the public to do so.

 

In response the Cabinet Member advised that transport officers at the county council would welcome any feedback and they were the first point of call. However if members or residents wished to direct their comments to officers at this council in the first instance they would be happy to pass them on to the officers at the county.

 

6.

Question from Councillor Adam Lillywhite to the Cabinet Member Built Environment, Councillor Andrew McKinlay

 

The only figures the public have seen for traffic flows before and after the CTP changes are not like for like and do they give the direction of the traffic. Prior to changes they were given figures as hourly peak flows and since the changes a comparable for this has not been offered but a 24 hour figure and peak flows without an indication of direction.  Will you please ensure that for phase 2 data is supplied in a format that can be compared with the figures that were given in the ‘consultations’ for Traffic flows.  How will an independent assessment of the success of any phase of the CTP be made when to date these have been made by the promoters of the scheme and those contracted to implement or have an interest in seeing it implemented?

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

Traffic modelling requires significant amounts of data to construct, and is a costly exercise, both in terms of time and finances. Consequently, traffic models, particularly large and complex models such as the Cheltenham PARAMICS model used for the CTP modelling, generally assess the highest impact time periods, which is usually the AM and PM peak periods.

 

The model outputs for the CTP are for the AM and PM peak periods with the full scheme in place in 2026, which was the scenario assessed. 

 

As the changes to the streets as part of the CTP are in place 24 hours a day, the average daily flow is a more appropriate measure to understand any effects of the CTP on the network, rather than constraining the assessment to looking at the peak hours.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Lillywhite suggested that from the response it appeared that like for like comparable data to that given in the consultation was not to be supplied, and would no attempt be made to answer the question over the independent assessment of each phase of the scheme?.

 

The Cabinet Member considered his answer had been very clear. All along comparisons had been made at peak times in the morning and afternoon at various points on the traffic network in the town and that would form the basis of any direct comparisons to be made in 2026.

 

7.

Question from Councillor Adam Lillywhite to the Cabinet Member Built Environment, Councillor Andrew McKinlay

 

I have recently received a complaint from a member of my ward about their children feeling sick on their way to school due to the increase in traffic pollution around Pittville Circus since the start of phase 2 for, there are three primary schools in this vicinity.  This mother wishes to continue walking her children to school, can please tell me how you are to deal with this increased danger and pollution that is scaring these primary school children and making them feel sick from pollution and reluctant to walk to school, and how you are you to encourage their parents not to give in and drive their children to school so increasing the congestion, but instead continue to subject their children to this fear inducing and health threatening environment at the start of every school day.

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

Please convey my concerns for the children who have felt ill.

 

CBC is aware of its responsibilities and has an Air Quality Management Area action plan targeted at dealing with known hotspots, however, many of the actions endorsed by colleagues at GCC rely upon the implementation of measures linked to the Cheltenham Transport Plan, such as improving bus access e.g. Albion Street which the member for Pittville so vehemently opposes; see Q5.

 

As widely reported in the national press, there were significant air quality issues across the whole of the country at the end of January 2017. The DEFRA monitoring website shows that Air Pollution levels in the South West, which includes Cheltenham, were classified as moderate to high between 21st and 27th January.

 

Given the nature of airborne pollution, it is difficult to conclusively determine the cause. However, the DEFRA data suggests that the air quality issues noted by the ward member in late January were related to the wider air quality problems experienced across the whole country and not specific to Pittville Circus, which has not previously been identified as a pollution hotspot.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Lillywhite restated that children were arriving at school in the morning feeling sick and scared, as a result of the increased pollution and traffic flows, and the Cabinet Members response had been to refer to one day in this period that pollution in the South west of England was on the high side of moderate. No mention was made of the increased traffic and he asked whether the Cabinet Member had so totally washed his hands of the impact of this scheme, that he did not accept what was actually happening, right now in our streets. 

 

The Cabinet Member had received a copy of the particular complaint referred to and said it would not be appropriate to comment as colleagues at GCC were currently looking into the detail. He assured Councillor Lillywhite that he was continuing to look at this issue and there would be ongoing monitoring of levels including the site of All Saints Road. There was a budget for any remediable work if required but any decisions would be based on comprehensive evidence including frequency and cause.

 

 

8.

Question from Councillor Adam Lillywhite to the Cabinet Member Built Environment, Councillor Andrew McKinlay

 

Why for such an expensive, important and fundamental change for the town, which at the last consultation over 90% of people objected to, have we only had one failed trial, a refusal for further trial of the actual changes and a refusal to wait for the upto date traffic modelling that is about to be  performed by the JCS?

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

Sadly, the member for Pittville remains in denial; colleagues at GCC have successfully implemented phase 1 with no significant adverse effects and some positive outcomes which have been generally welcomed, such as the start of construction of a John Lewis store.

GCC comprehensively modelled the proposals for the centre of Cheltenham and whilst in an ideal world all data for all eventualities would be available, the reality is that these proposals have been talked about for 30 years to my knowledge; it is this administration in concert with GCC that is actually doing something about implementing them.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Lillywhite felt that no attempt had been made to answer his question with regard to JCS modelling and he was not vehemently opposed to the scheme as the Cabinet Member had suggested in his response to question 7 but was asking for justification of means of assessing the scheme.

 

The Cabinet Member considered his answer was clearly laid out.

 

9.

Question from Councillor Adam Lillywhite to the Cabinet Member Built Environment, Councillor Andrew McKinlay

 

Phase 3 of the CTP, the two waying of Clarence Parade and Clarence Street.  Please identify the new routes this enables. This greatly constricts the most expeditious south north route through the town, in a similar manner to which phase 2 constricts a major East West and South North route. Why are we pursuing this scheme under the guise of a ’transport Plan' when it disperses more traffic past schools and through residential areas,  permanently and intentionally reduces the capacity and resilience of the towns road network by probably 30% when we are planning to grow the town by 20% in the immediate future? Surely the aim of a ‘Transport plan’ should be to improve the existing situation in terms of safety, environment, capacity and resilience across the whole town, not just possibly the environment of one street.

 

Response from Cabinet Member

 

I do not agree with the assertions made. Phase 2 of the Cheltenham Transport Plan is not constricting a major East West and South North route. It is merely allowing easier access from the busiest access route (M5 J11) into town centre car parking, thereby removing traffic from the network at the earliest opportunity.

 

Interestingly, I have been advised by GCC that the extent of disruption and queuing during construction for Phase 2 is lower than expected to date; evidence that the previous “trial” generated useful learning for traffic management .

 

Phase 1 and 2 are increasing capacity by creating 2 way accessibility; the traffic monitoring post implementation will determine any dispersal impact.

 

I do, however, agree with Cllr Lillywhite about the aims of the transport plan. Indeed, one of the key objectives of the CTP is to encourage people not to use their vehicles for unnecessary journeys, particularly short ones, subsequently improving safety, environment, capacity and resilience across the whole town.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Lillywhite did not feel any attempt had been made to answer this question which was about phase 3 of this scheme and he reread out the second part.

 

The Cabinet Member had nothing to add to his original response.

 

 

10.

Question from Councillor Chris Nelson to the Leader Councillor Steve Jordan

 

Despite being assured at our last JCS Council meeting last October that the 2013 Saturn transport model would be available in November of last year, we are still waiting for it to be signed off by the authorities.   This model is now 4 years late!!

 

I have absolutely no confidence that the JCS housing developments will be examined in a timely manner to assess their impact on our transport infrastructure, with a view to developing effective and affordable mitigation measures.   If this proves to be the case and the JCS Examination in Public fails to scrutinize this delayed transportation analysis, will the Leader please ensure that the Cheltenham Plan will eventually look at these strategic traffic issues, rather than waiting for each site to come forward individually and examined in isolation?   It is always much easier to influence a proposed mitigation measure before it is part of an actual development application, when improvements are much more difficult to engineer. 

 

If the JCS transport solution - whatever that may be -  is not thoroughly scrutinized, we are likely to see much more town wide congestion and delays on our roads, leading to a significant and adverse impact on the development of our economy and local tourism.

 

Response from the Leader

 

In her interim report, the Inspector made clear that the 2008 traffic model, which was peer reviewed in 2012, is the best information currently available. The inspector considered whether to delay the progress of the plan to await the 2013 model but took the view that this would cause undue delay and would not be necessary.

 

The Inspector went on to say that "Consequently on the evidence before me, I am satisfied that the JCS can justifiably proceed with the proposed transport mitigation strategy, the main parts of which should be reflected in the JCS with a suitable note referring to the awaited update." (paragraph 200 of the Interim Report)

 

Ongoing work is being undertaken to ensure validation of the transport model is achieved.  This is being undertaken on behalf of the JCS authorities via consultants working for the County Council with the aim that policies can be tested and results published prior to the next set JCS examination hearings. The model is being run to test the impact of the JCS so needs to include all agreed strategic sites. The October meeting of Tewkesbury Council created uncertainty over whether Twigworth was included but this was resolved at their 31 January meeting. Officers met on 2 February with County and Highways England colleagues to progress this work.  Once validation has been met, a timetable will be made available setting out when the JCS transport modelling will be published.

 

In a supplementary question, Councillor Nelson was concerned that members were still months away from seeing the results of the traffic modelling and analysis which was a key issue for the JCS and indeed this data may not be available before the end of the JCS process. What mechanisms were the public have to comment on the final traffic analysis within the JCS process?

 

The Leader hoped that GCC would be able to make this data available before the end of the JCS process but he did not have an exact timetable at this stage.

 

 

 

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